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Discord
Hi,

I wanna know if people want to create a discord just for the wiki? Could be easier for us to share our infos and test things together :) (yeah not a very clear explanation but you see what I mean :) )


 * Hi, why not ? It's a nice idea, like with category for English, French, Chinese, etc... Maybe you can just create the discord, let the address in this section and contact the admin/moderator of the wiki and he will maybe create a section in the main page for it. Sorry if my english isn't very clear... x) And, don't forget to sign your message with the litle waves thing ~ (you need 4 ~ to sign, idk if there is a code to explain it better). And you can add a ":" or "::", ":::" to expand the text in the right, the discussion will be more visible. :)
 * Have a nice day! --Emelynn_ (talk) 12:01, 16 March 2019 (UTC)


 * There is a Discord channel in the Satisfactory server. It's hidden and you have to ask a mod to be added. --Mr Pie 5 (talk) 20:56, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

FR translation project
Hi, I started a translation project in French and I wondered if it was better to directly translate the name of the page in French? I mean, currently, I have created several pages like for example "Milestone/fr", "Space Elevator/fr" ... But is it not better that I translate directly the page in French? So "Palier/fr" for milestone and "Elevateur spatiale/fr" for "Space Elevator"?

Thank you in advance for your answers. :) --Emelynn_ (talk) 15:59, 13 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Heeey, currently got the same for the NL translation and wondering the same thing --Joerkig (talk) 08:16, 15 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks to participate in this little chat. 1 guy has created some title page directly in French so... Idk... --Emelynn_ (talk) 11:54, 16 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Sorry for not responding, I missed that there was a new conversation here. "Space Elevator/fr" and "Elevateur spatiale" are both acceptable, just be sure to add . I'm going to try to get French moved to its own wiki in the next couple of days so you can have a bit more freedom of movement. --Mr Pie 5 (talk) 21:02, 16 March 2019 (UTC)


 * No problem if you'd missed it. ^^ Thanks to you for responding. If you move the french wiki in it's own wiki, all the images and template, etc, will be off ? I mean, actually i'm using a lot of templates and images from the EN-wiki, I will have to recreate everything ? It's not a problem but... I'm not a pro in wiki-thing... :) Have a good night. --Emelynn_ (talk) 21:40, 16 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Templates will be moved and can be translated at leisure, and the images will work the same as they do now without needing to be moved. --Mr Pie 5 (talk) 22:25, 16 March 2019 (UTC)


 * How about creating a new wiki language? It would be easier to maintain if a wiki doesn't contain other languages. --Kwjcool321 (talk) 13:34, 25 March 2019 (UTC)


 * That would be preferable. There are a couple of pages marked for deletion already, in French, Russion Chinese and Dutch: https://satisfactory.gamepedia.com/Category:Candidates_for_deletion (Dutch I can edit). --CerbrusNL (talk) 15:36, 25 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Translation projects can be more properly viewed at Category:Translation projects. Those deletion notices have been removed because that was not a valid reason for deletion - we can't move them somewhere that doesn't exist, and I'm currently not confident enough in the levels of commitment amongst the translation communities to create new wikis dedicated to those languages. --Mr Pie 5 (talk) 21:52, 25 March 2019 (UTC)


 * But, who create the Deutsch section ? It seems to be ok, no ? Can we contact someone who can, or maybe we have to contact the gamepedia admin ? Thanks for the help. :) --Emelynn (talk) 09:01, 26 March 2019 (UTC)


 * I am your Gamepedia admin, and you had been gone for a while, and the other translator User:Wesley levasseur longer, so I thought you had either left or didn't have the time necessary to maintain a separate French wiki. If you are still interested and have the time to support it, send me an email through my profile and we'll see about getting that set up. --Mr Pie 5 (talk) 20:15, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Adding missing images
Hey, I noticed there's a bunch of missing images for certain items and buildings. What process was used to obtain the icons of the ones we have now? I noticed they're quite high-res (512x512). --Florensie (talk) 12:33, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * We asked Markus nicely in the Discord server. He's working on an updated dump. --Mr Pie 5 (talk) 19:56, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Awesome, thanks! --Florensie (talk) 13:10, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Wiki Automation
Can the used to craft section for any items can be automated, such as it will automatic retrieve data from other's page so that we don't have to input it manually? As such the necessary input from human would be only crafting from / building ingredients / equipment ingredients, in a template, while Used to craft would be automatic. --Kwjcool321 (talk) 15:11, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * it already used Template:Crafting usage which does get the Data from the other pages, or what do you mean? --Hanmac (talk) 15:24, 27 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Are there pages that are still making such tables manually, or are you perhaps referring to the tables on production buildings like Constructor? If the latter, I was working on setting that up to work automatically but got sidetracked by other projects. --Mr Pie 5 (talk) 20:47, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Unify of writing style
I would like to suggest for all pages in this wiki would have a constant writing style, for example: --Kwjcool321 (talk) 15:11, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) Use Engineer instead of Player
 * 2) Use ItemLink instead of normal link.
 * 3) Use 1 space before and after any number.
 * 4) ..etc..


 * Agreed. I've been adding ItemLinks where necessary.
 * Similarly, I've recently added a "Dimensions" section to the building template. Please use that instead of adding a table into a building's page. It accepts 4 parameters:
 * size_width   =
 * size_length  =
 * size_height  =
 * size_note    = 
 * For an example, check the source on Conveyor Splitter. --CerbrusNL (talk) 15:24, 27 March 2019 (UTC)


 * ItemLink can add a nice touch to a link, but isn't always preferable to a normal link. Use your best judgement on whether or not to use it, taking into account things like how much of a piece of text would be made up of images if every link were an ItemLink, whether said text is intended to function as text or more like a graphic, and how relevant the icon would actually be. One design of ItemLink is to add flair to links and make them more distinguishable at a glance, but things like conveyor belts, splitters/mergers, and a lot of buildings look the same at that size, so it effectively makes them less distinguishable. --Mr Pie 5 (talk) 20:42, 27 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Engineer vs Player has come up before. I have mixed feelings on it, because while it does add some immersion and flavor, the term "Engineer" isn't as immediately clear as "Player", especially to newbies. --Mr Pie 5 (talk) 20:44, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

20X20px broken links
I've seen a lot of items on the wiki with a 20X20px prefix link. I've been trying to figure out what the intent was in their creation so the pages can be created and linked properly. Can anyone tell me about it?(FructusParvus (talk) 15:25, 3 April 2019 (UTC))
 * They are item links. I recently converted the all elements in the ItemNav into ItemLink. Most end games items don't have proper sprites yet, so the 20x20px link will be seen as broken. Once the images are uploaded, the broken link issue should fix. --Kwjcool321 (talk) 16:00, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Awesome! I'll just leave them alone then. (FructusParvus (talk) 16:07, 3 April 2019 (UTC))

Temporary item replacements
As asked before, a lot of item icons are missing, and just show 20x20px instead. Hovewer, in-game, most items that don't have the icon have the model when dropped. Is it ok if a screenshot of the item is uploaded as a replacement, or should it be left empty?

Ondar111 (talk) 05:59, 7 April 2019 (UTC) ✏ A marshall (talk) 07:15, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I think that'd be fine, especially if the item background is removed to be transparent like the other item icons (otherwise it might be hard to see at the 20x20px size).

Separate Page/Article for Speculation Over In-Game Content
I had originally posted this idea in the main discussion page, then realized this page exists. I was wondering if a separate article for speculation over in-game content and their purposes (such as unreleased features) would be plausible.

Currently, only sections in separate articles exist for any sort of speculation over upcoming content. It might work better if it was all condensed into one article that can be linked/redirected to from other articles, so it can be viewed all in one place. This could also serve as a reference/index article to lore created by the community over the storyline and other game-related things, especially as the game gets closer to full release. --Strategic Thought (talk) 02:04, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I'd rather keep the speculation in the article related to that theory. For example, speculation about how trains work should be on the Electric Locomotive page. Otherwise, I'd have to a link to the speculation page on the locomotive's page. That seems a little double... --CerbrusNL (talk) 05:41, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Inversely, you could just have a directory page that links to all speculation sections in the separate articles. Kinda like the category page. --Strategic Thought (talk) 08:47, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 * That's do-able, and could be automated. A template that results in a == Speculation == header, and registers the link... --CerbrusNL (talk) 09:47, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Combine Mk related pages
The belt page is looking good. I wonder if all buildings which has Mks can be combined together such as miner, power poles, assembler, etc. Else many redundant text may need to copied to different pages. --Kwjcool321 (talk) 07:53, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
 * That may be a good idea, but personally, I'd wait until a Mk.2 machine is released, so we can be sure the functionality isn't too different. (They're probably simply speed upgrades, but who knows what else it does...?) --CerbrusNL (talk) 12:35, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Experimental data replacing current data
I brought this up in the Discord channel but would like to try to provoke discussion here as well. Since Coffee Stain has given everyone access to the experimental branch of the game for preview/testing of new features, the wiki now has an issue of conflict between the experimental and stable build in the game for existing items. For example, the new recipe for Fabric. For players still on the stable branch (which I'd wager is most of them, and I'd also make the claim that the stable branch is the current or "real" version of the game), this information is wrong. So in the interest of not confusing the reader or otherwise presenting false information, I propose we follow a policy of keeping the main presented information for existing items consistent with the stable version of the game. --Mr Pie 5 (talk) 00:11, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Agreed, how about adding a "upcoming" subheading to each of the item that is going to be changed, a short text mentioning what will be undergo the change. I try this at the fabric page.--Kwjcool321 (talk) 01:04, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The other way round is to create a "History" subheader in the page, similar to this:[].--Kwjcool321 (talk) 01:13, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I think we should use both the Upcoming and History methods. That way information from the patch notes can be present on item pages as well as the individual patch pages. I remember Jace hinting at possibly adding the ability to go back to previous versions at some point in the future, and the history section would be useful for that. I don't think many people will look in the History section for current info/recipes though, so the Upcoming sections definitely have purpose. Robbyo4 (talk) 01:47, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The history/upcoming sections would be good for "tracking" updates, this is another way of doing this:[]. A bugs section could maybe be useful as well. --Ondar111 (talk) 04:58, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Editing tables
Hi, I am trying to help update the Wiki contents to the new EA version. I noticed that I cannot edit the alternate recipes table since it pulls its contents from a database. Any way to help here? Then for single items I tried to edit the crafting table, but there is only a reference like { {CraftingUsage}}. How can I edit that? Willi3591 (talk) 10:30, 15 March 2020 (UTC)